Fun with the m43 Voigtlaender 25mm f/0.95 lens

[ustein]

Shot with GF1.

[Leigh]

Uwe, you constantly amaze me.

I've never encountered anyone who can transform ordinary subjects into extraordinary art as well as you do.

My compliments, Sir.

- Leigh

[ZoranC]

Originally Posted by Leigh

Uwe, you constantly amaze me.

I've never encountered anyone who can transform ordinary subjects into extraordinary art as well as you do.

Let me join you in saying that.

[ustein]

>I've never encountered anyone who can transform ordinary subjects into extraordinary art as well as you do.

Thanks to encourage us.

[MoJo]

Uwe, these are really fine images!

[mark1958]

These are great images. I particularly like the chair pattern.. great!

[DHart]

Reeray... stunning images with your lens!

Uwe... awesome vision with the chair!

Dan... love that succulent image... superb.

[Godfrey]

+1 on your Chair, Uwe! Lovely work.

[ustein]

[ustein]

[Bigeyes]

[Terry]

Welcome to the forum. I moved your post to this thread where the Nokton is already being discussed.

[Bigeyes]

Originally Posted by TEBnewyork

Welcome to the forum. I moved your post to this thread where the Nokton is already being discussed.

Thanks for your moving!

[Bigeyes]

[Bigeyes]

the closest focus distance is only 17mm!!! Amazing.

[Bigeyes]

[Bigeyes]

[Bigeyes]

[Jonas]

Hi 好傻好天真
(Any suggestion for what we can call you using the common English alphabet? If nothing else just a way to pronounce 好傻好天真?)

Thank you for the images.

I eBayed my copy of the CV25 earlier this week. My old eyes wish for calm and soft bokeh. Your images show to me one has to take a close look at the background when using the CV25 wide open (and sometimes at f/1.4 and f/2 as well). Even gentle highlights will show a certain degree of coma (if that's the right word) and highlights get etchy. This is not right or wrong in my opinion, just the way it is.

Are you happy with the bokeh and other aspects of the lens?

regards,

Jonas

[Bigeyes]

Dear Jonas,

好傻好天真
= Super Naive
[as I am so fresh as well less knowledge in Photograph]

[seakayaker]

好傻好天真, welcome to the forum!

Love your shots and the bokeh! Outstanding!

. . . . . keep 'em coming . . . . .

[Jonas]

Originally Posted by 好傻好天真

好傻好天真
= Super Naive
[as I am so fresh as well less knowledge in Photograph]

Hi... SN

I had a look at your gallery and the travel images. I don't think you are super naive. There were some interesting images (and you have been to a couple of countries I still haven't visited).

Welcome to the forum,

Jonas

[PeterB666]

This guy was busking - dancing with an inflatable doll!


Honey, I think she's an absolute doll by peterb666, on Flickr

Great dancer - both of them.

Photo taken with an Olympus E-P1 and Voigtlander 25mm f/0.95.

[Kamoulox]

Time for a break !

[ZoranC]

Back to topic of CV Nokton:

[savageclimbing]

My Voigtlander just arrived in the mail yesterday! Here are my first shots.

[panzerneo]

P3091627.jpg by panzerneo, on Flickr


P3091632.jpg by panzerneo, on Flickr


P3091636.jpg by panzerneo, on Flickr


P3091643.jpg by panzerneo, on Flickr


P3091649.jpg by panzerneo, on Flickr

The whole set is visible here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7399109...60923478/show/

[ZoranC]

Amazing shots everyone, it makes me wonder why there is a number of Nokton haters on DPR

[DHart]

panzerneo... wonderful images~!

[Jorgen Udvang]

Originally Posted by ZoranC

Amazing shots everyone, it makes me wonder why there is a number of Nokton haters on DPR

On DPR, there are a number of haters that will target any product that is not a Canon full frame camera or L-series lens. I suspect the majority of the haters drive Chevrolet or Toyota, eat Big Mac or Kentucky Fried Chicken Substance (KFCS) and mostly drink Coke. If you look inside their brains, you will find that it consists of the same chemicals that make Big Mac and KFCS resemble food.

[ZoranC]

Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang

I suspect the majority of the haters drive Chevrolet or Toyota ...

I drive Toyota so I don't think that's the reason LOL

[Jorgen Udvang]

Originally Posted by ZoranC

I drive Toyota so I don't think that's the reason LOL

Coming to think of it, I do too

[ustein]

>I suspect the majority of the haters drive Chevrolet

Should I hate my Nokton now too :-)

[Jorgen Udvang]

Originally Posted by ustein

>I suspect the majority of the haters drive Chevrolet

Should I hate my Nokton now too :-)

Oh bugger... I guess I have to stop trying to insult posters on other forums

[panzerneo]

@DHart: thanks! Let it rain
@ZoranC: agreed. Read a nonsensical review about it on stevehuff the other day, comparing apples and oranges. The plus side of this is it will help lower the price
of this amazing lens.

Let's just hope Cosina will keep on inventing bold lenses that do push the envelop.

[ZoranC]

Originally Posted by panzerneo

@ZoranC: agreed. Read a nonsensical review about it on stevehuff the other day, comparing apples and oranges. The plus side of this is it will help lower the price of this amazing lens.

I have read Mr Babsky article and while I do agree it is nonsensical and not biased I feel it is still slanted by his personal point of view. Here is why:

1. Mr Babsky talks how one can skin the cat of background blur differently, by going with longer focal lengths. Yeah, I know that and I have such lenses, but what do I do when it is 50mm EFL FOV and/or certain "speed" that I want or need? Can't use that then, it's Nokton that pulls it off.

2. Mr Babsky talks 3 times in a row about sharpness under negatives (see below). Well, doesn't that matter _only_ if all person cares about is sharpness?

– It’s sharp stopped down, but not at its very widest and simultaneously its closest – for $900

– The genuine f0.95 ‘Noctilux’ is -w-a-y- sharper than this at 0.95 (..but costs $10,000)

– At closest focus you’re lucky to get anything really sharp unless stopped down to f2.8, so why pay for f0.95?

3. Mr Babsky says:

– Any 2nd-hand full-frame 50mm wide aperture lens + adaptor can give similar results for less cash

I disagree and I find it not making sense because first, let's not compare apples to oranges by comparing prices of used gear to prices of new gear.

Second, even if agreed to apples to oranges price of used D500 with used 50/1.4 G is still more than price of new m43 body with Nokton. Quite used D700 (please correct me if I am wrong) goes for approximate $1750. 50/1.4 G lets say $300, so we are looking at total over $2K. m43 body with Nokton is at least $500 less.

Last, but far from least, and that point seems to be lost on many reviewer, quite a few of m43 users became m43 users because they wanted to go _away_ from huge and heavy DSLR and have accepted compromises in IQ to achieve that.

So to tell full frame can achieve these results is missing a critical point that we do NOT want that huge DSLR with us, otherwise we wouldn't have bought m43.

I _have_ full frame body and I do have fast 50mm lens, but I would have been crazy to lug that around with me on a fun date last weekend. On the other hand EP2 with Nokton was acceptable (even though my girlfriend sometimes thinks I was still crazy anyway), and it still allowed me to get this shot of our table without getting up from a chair interfering with other tables or waiters or intruding into privacy of people opposite us or bothering everyone with flash.

[mark1958]

Here is one i took walking through a cactus garden the other day GH2 Voigtlander 25mm at 0.95

[ZoranC]

Originally Posted by mark1958

Here is one i took walking through a cactus garden the other day GH2 Voigtlander 25mm at 0.95

Beautiful!

[panzerneo]

One little detail I'd like to mention:
when taking macro shots, motion blur gets really amplified.
By combining the in-body image stabilisation of the Olympus E-P2 with the faster than usual aperture (and therefore higher shutter speed) I was able to shoot everyting hand-held. No problem!

[RS]

hater got to hate

Originally Posted by ZoranC

I have read Mr Babsky article and while I do agree it is nonsensical and not biased I feel it is still slanted by his personal point of view. Here is why:

1. Mr Babsky talks how one can skin the cat of background blur differently, by going with longer focal lengths. Yeah, I know that and I have such lenses, but what do I do when it is 50mm EFL FOV and/or certain "speed" that I want or need? Can't use that then, it's Nokton that pulls it off.

2. Mr Babsky talks 3 times in a row about sharpness under negatives (see below). Well, doesn't that matter _only_ if all person cares about is sharpness?

3. Mr Babsky says:

I disagree and I find it not making sense because first, let's not compare apples to oranges by comparing prices of used gear to prices of new gear.

Second, even if agreed to apples to oranges price of used D500 with used 50/1.4 G is still more than price of new m43 body with Nokton. Quite used D700 (please correct me if I am wrong) goes for approximate $1750. 50/1.4 G lets say $300, so we are looking at total over $2K. m43 body with Nokton is at least $500 less.

Last, but far from least, and that point seems to be lost on many reviewer, quite a few of m43 users became m43 users because they wanted to go _away_ from huge and heavy DSLR and have accepted compromises in IQ to achieve that.

So to tell full frame can achieve these results is missing a critical point that we do NOT want that huge DSLR with us, otherwise we wouldn't have bought m43.

I _have_ full frame body and I do have fast 50mm lens, but I would have been crazy to lug that around with me on a fun date last weekend. On the other hand EP2 with Nokton was acceptable (even though my girlfriend sometimes thinks I was still crazy anyway), and it still allowed me to get this shot of our table without getting up from a chair interfering with other tables or waiters or intruding into privacy of people opposite us or bothering everyone with flash.