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Old 7th February 2011   #1
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Lightening fast...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqLCUccfH1U

...and mighty sharp. Literally: "The sharpness is way over expectations and it has led me to having to send in my 16-35L lens due to its soft look when compared to the X100..."

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Looks like great little camera. Love the look/controls. They've used quality materials and chose to include some more esoteric features like the switch between optical/EVF, aperture ring, shutter dial, EV dial... things craved by camera enthusiasts. I expect it will have a small, but loving following. The price will be a barrier for most.

I noticed it has a built-in ND filter. That's a pretty cool addition for video and using f2 outdoors.
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Re: Fujifilm X-100 testimonies surfacing

Thanks for the link--I am really excited about the X100, so much so that I may actually pre-order.

I am tired of the negative comments in various internet fora regarding the fixed lens and the higher price. The link is a refreshing and welcome change.
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I am tired of the negative comments in various internet fora regarding the fixed lens and the higher price. The link is a refreshing and welcome change.
Me too - not sure that I want one, but it's an excellent, interesting and creditable camera - hooray!
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Ya, I'm with all of you. Really on the fence on pre-ordering it.

Haven't cared for m43... results have too limited dynamic range and poor high iso. Sony's have fast AF but I don't like the limited lens selection and hate the UI.

That leaves me with the X100 and the Ricoh GXR. I cannot find a GXR anywhere to try out (if someone knows of a place in Atlanta or Charlotte, please let me know). The x100 is about the same price as the GXR + 1 A12 module + evf... so about the same, but no interchangeable lenses. I love the Ricoh rendering, but I'm worried I've been spoiled with d300/d700 AF.

Last, I hate to wait on rumors--but we still keep hearing about the Nikon mirrorless. I have a 2 week honeymoon to Europe at the end of this summer (I'd prefer to not bring a d700 and f2.8 glass).
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TechIV -
Call pop flash. They have a GXR loaner program.

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Ya, I'm with all of you. Really on the fence on pre-ordering it.

Haven't cared for m43... results have too limited dynamic range and poor high iso. Sony's have fast AF but I don't like the limited lens selection and hate the UI.

That leaves me with the X100 and the Ricoh GXR. I cannot find a GXR anywhere to try out (if someone knows of a place in Atlanta or Charlotte, please let me know). The x100 is about the same price as the GXR + 1 A12 module + evf... so about the same, but no interchangeable lenses. I love the Ricoh rendering, but I'm worried I've been spoiled with d300/d700 AF.

Last, I hate to wait on rumors--but we still keep hearing about the Nikon mirrorless. I have a 2 week honeymoon to Europe at the end of this summer (I'd prefer to not bring a d700 and f2.8 glass).
With Ricoh's recent announcement of an M-mount module, I think this becomes a no-brainer

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With Ricoh's recent announcement of an M-mount module, I think this becomes a no-brainer
I assume the "no-brainer" option is the Ricoh M. Perhaps true for those comfortable with manual focus. I love M lenses but find I do much better with AF.
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With Ricoh's recent announcement of an M-mount module, I think this becomes a no-brainer

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I'm with Tom, but for slightly different reasons. Having interchangeable lenses, while nice, is not a priority in this kind of camera. On the M Leicas I've used, I only really needed a 35mm focal length or its film equivalent. I'll break out the Nikons for longer lenses. Back in the '80's, I recall many PJ's carrying both M's and SLR's--M's for short/wide work, and SLR's for 85mm+. Sorry,

Also, the Ricoh body/EVF/Module cost does not include lenses. If I attach a 28 Elmarit, that's $2K+ for the combo. If I go with a 24 Lux or 28 cron lens, that's Junior's first year at (community) college! Jr. better be flipping burgers at 11! Granted, they are different leagues of lenses (not going into that debate), but if one is getting the M mount, you might as well go for broke (literally).

If I really want to use Leica M lenses, I might as well get a used M8 instead of the Ricoh and use RF focusing, which I find faster and less hassle than Liveview manual focusing, at least for me. But of course, that brings on a whole other set of issues....
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Guess if I:

(1) had a box full of Leica M glass (my last Leica was an M3... in College!)

(2) didnt mind manual focus (them there eyes just arent what they used to be, yet I am just not ready to give upo photography and take up still life drawing a la Cartier-Bresson)

(3) dont mind shooting exclusively with an electronic viewfinder (in very low light my otherwise lovely Ricoh GRD2 shows nothing zilch NADA in the LCD and I have to point the camera with AF Assist light)...

... then a Ricoh GXR would certainly be a no-brainer !

Gosh how I miss real viewfinders and stay-put controls in pocketable cameras (even coat pocketable ones)...

And how about standard ISO 6400, 8 RAW bursts and being able to review the shot without removing the eye from the OVF ?

Lots of new info (after even more marketing hype) on the X-100 in this new brochure:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig...talogue_01.pdf

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If I really want to use Leica M lenses, I might as well get a used M8 instead of the Ricoh and use RF focusing, which I find faster and less hassle than Liveview manual focusing, at least for me. But of course, that brings on a whole other set of issues....

Ahh but I could see a lot of people using the Voigtlanders with the that module. Good lenses at reasonable prices.
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I love manual focusing with rangefinders and older cameras designed for it....ahhh what I wouldn't give for an F3HP viewfinder.... but I'm with Tom, I like autofocus in this kind of camera.

M9 with a 35 lux and 90 cron would be my ideal...Alas, I'm a grad student and I don't the money for leica glass.

Terry, thank you. I will look into the lending program!

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Some x-100 cityscapes, one of them ISO 6400 @ f2.8, sadly reduced to 900 pixels. Still promising:

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That ISO 6400 shot looks pretty impressive at f2.8.
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That ISO 6400 shot looks pretty impressive at f2.8.
Hard to tell at that size, but it certainly doesn't look bad.
You on a list too Terry?
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Just seemed really crisp to me for an f2.8 at ISo 6400 image. ISO 6400 a lot of times starts to lose sharpness.

Did you doubt that I would be on the list?
I really do like to try out new technology...and support companies that innovate. The one thing that does worry me is the wonky awful UI of the old F30 P&S era and I saw from one of the menus that they haven't changed their vocabulary from using words like photometry

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Just seemed really crisp to me for an f2.8 at ISo 6400 image. ISO 6400 a lot of times starts to lose sharpness.

Did you doubt that I would be on the list?
Not for an instant ... :-) ... !

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... The one thing that does worry me is the wonky awful UI of the old F30 P&S era and I saw from one of the menus that they haven't changed their vocabulary from using words like photometry ...
Well, at least with this camera I suspect that once it is set up the way I want there's little real need to ever go back into the menu system other than to re-format the storage card. Set the camera up at its defaults, turn on raw capture, and shoot away. Who cares what photometry it's set for? Maybe you have to go in to change ISO now and then, hopefully that's not too confusing to do.
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That ISO 6400 shot looks pretty impressive at f2.8.
I thought so too Terry. So much that I was questioning whether the shot details were correct. Would love to see the full resolution image!
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Robert Catto X100 Hands-on

"Very little lag in any form, by my standards. Apart from the battery dying, of course! I wasn’t really pushing it, but at no stage (shooting RAW + .jpg to a Sandisk Extreme III) did I feel like I jammed up the buffer and slowed the camera down, or was waiting for focus, or mashing the shutter and wishing it would fire. I would rate the camera as very responsive, and very consistently responsive."

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Extensive preview at the spanish website quesabesde http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/f...nalisis,1_7322

Raw samples are provided too.
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ISO 6400 and 3200 look pretty good.
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Funny how the bar has moved and our noise and high ISO standards have changed. The strawberry shots:

http://images.quesabesde.com/camaras...0_dscf0292.jpg

at ISO 3200 look like ISO 400 on my D50 and Pany L1.

Is it March yet?
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Looking good.
Let's see how long it takes for Adobe and Apple to support the raw format. :-)

Time to get my ebay sales things moving...
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If I wasn't already cemented in my purchase decision (I was), those Spanish images put me over the top. Should have one waiting for me here in Austin on day one!
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Funny how the bar has moved and our noise and high ISO standards have changed. The strawberry shots:

http://images.quesabesde.com/camaras...0_dscf0292.jpg

at ISO 3200 look like ISO 400 on my D50 and Pany L1.

Is it March yet?
I like this photo alot. I think 3200 will be my max for most stuff.
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This camera with prerelease firmware seem capable of producing really outstanding images.

Here is a before and after minor tweaking in LR:

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This ISO 6400 images first the entire picture and then at 100% is amazing:




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No comments on these images?
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I think your post processing shows that the default settings for the jpg rendering has very little sharpening and low contrast (on preproduction cameras anyway), much like an "undeveloped" raw.

Clearly, with some good post processing the X100 will produce some gorgeous,sharp, images. Especially from raw.
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" Clearly, with some good post processing - EVEN ISO 6400 JPGS FROM - the X100 will produce some gorgeous, sharp, images. "

And that is indeed raising the bar for semi-compact cameras...

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Hugo Poon had a shot at the X100 beta in Hong Kong. He is well known among the Fuji community for some great night cityscapes and street photography. Apparently he was "highly impressed by this engineering sample" even considering it to "replace his existing S5 Pro + 35mm f1.8 combo when final X-100 debuts"

"He thought he would use the EVF more, but end up using OVF more. Not much to complain about the high ISO performance and lens sharpness."

Some nice shots (again sadly not full size and not from a final X100).. but we are getting there :

http://www.pbase.com/hpicckcy/fujifilm_x100

I particularly liked the iso 3200 macro shot of the chinese revolution figurines...
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I think your post processing shows that the default settings for the jpg rendering has very little sharpening and low contrast (on preproduction cameras anyway), much like an "undeveloped" raw.
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Either that or rather a heavy AA filter - it'll be interesting to see.
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I didn't apply much sharpening and i did apply some noise reduction. The big change was + .75 exposure (it is under exposed). I also added a small amount of curve to bring up contrast a little.
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I didn't apply much sharpening and i did apply some noise reduction. The big change was + .75 exposure (it is under exposed). I also added a small amount of curve to bring up contrast a little.
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Actually, with respect to the AA filter, I was thinking about the sailing boats, not the high ISO shot (which seems excellent to me).
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Here is an example with no sharpening and no noise reduction. Just exposure and curve. You can see the settings. This is at 100%.

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Still in shock that this is 6400!
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I'd like to see some high ISO shots without flash. All of the ones above were shot with flash on.
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I believe from other posts I have read that the flash was not on and it is just an error in the EXIF data due to pre beta software. Every single picture showed flash on, even those taken in bright daylight.
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I believe from other posts I have read that the flash was not on and it is just an error in the EXIF data due to pre beta software. Every single picture showed flash on, even those taken in bright daylight.
Thanks John. That seems like a reasonable explanation. I couldn't imagine why they would want to shoot everything with flash. The 6400 shots are quite impressive.
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Fujifilm FinePix X100 testing in Cambodia - Velvia colour scheme.

Again, not full size ( BTW quesabesde.com fullsize pre-production samples have been withdrawn from the web...), but decisive moment this one certainly is.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramdiboy/5460345105/

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Hands on video. Flash synch looks awesome for strobists and outdoor AF in high contrast seems very fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3oyhQGcKYs
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Don't you people find the fixed lens rather limiting? I mean I know many people find the 35mm eq a great focal length and like shooting with it, but not having the possibility to change it ever makes me wonder.

Another point, seeing the great IQ at ISO 6400 and the great results from today's good APS-C DSLRs make me think that common cameras are approaching or at the point where they all are good enough for nearly anything except printing big posters. I think it'll be now about the personal preference of handling, weight, accessories and lenses.
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Fujifilm FinePix X100 testing in Cambodia - Velvia colour scheme.

Again, not full size ( BTW quesabesde.com fullsize pre-production samples have been withdrawn from the web...), but decisive moment this one certainly is.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramdiboy/5460345105/

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that picture would be wonderful whatever it was take with!
fabulous . . .
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that picture would be wonderful whatever it was take with!
fabulous . . .
I agree. Amazing light and composition, perfect shadows, beautiful colours.
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Don't you people find the fixed lens rather limiting? I mean I know many people find the 35mm eq a great focal length and like shooting with it, but not having the possibility to change it ever makes me wonder.

Another point, seeing the great IQ at ISO 6400 and the great results from today's good APS-C DSLRs make me think that common cameras are approaching or at the point where they all are good enough for nearly anything except printing big posters. I think it'll be now about the personal preference of handling, weight, accessories and lenses.
I think many of us might even prefer working within the limitations of a fixed focal length. It can change the way you photograph.
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I think many of us might even prefer working within the limitations of a fixed focal length. It can change the way you photograph.
Quite agree . . . . but a bit of discipline can be just as good - put all your other lenses back in the cupboard and only take the 35 'lux with you.
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Quite agree . . . . but a bit of discipline can be just as good - put all your other lenses back in the cupboard and only take the 35 'lux with you.
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Unfortunately for me, 35mm is a focal length that I just don't particularly enjoy. Otherwise I would already be on that waiting list too. 28mm is more my cup of tea, so I just ordered the GXR with the 28mm module. But I am a big Fuji fan, I love what they have done with this camera. If I ever warm up to that focal length, I will add this camera to my (ever growing) collection for sure.
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Unfortunately for me, 35mm is a focal length that I just don't particularly enjoy. Otherwise I would already be on that waiting list too. 28mm is more my cup of tea, so I just ordered the GXR with the 28mm module. But I am a big Fuji fan, I love what they have done with this camera. If I ever warm up to that focal length, I will add this camera to my (ever growing) collection for sure.
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saw your purchase on the GXR thread - congratulations - it's beginning to look really interesting. I hope the 28mm is a success.
Like you, I find the Fuji fascinating (irresistible)- actually I've grown to like 35mm too - but I'm not quite sure that I want to be painted into that corner.

Resistance will be hard to maintain though!
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Hi There
saw your purchase on the GXR thread - congratulations - it's beginning to look really interesting. I hope the 28mm is a success.
Like you, I find the Fuji fascinating (irresistible)- actually I've grown to like 35mm too - but I'm not quite sure that I want to be painted into that corner.

Resistance will be hard to maintain though!
Honestly, I didn't think you were going to crumble this time! I should know better by now.
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