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Old 17th December 2008   #1
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The adapter has arrived

My adapter came this evening. I haven't had time to do anything with it yet, but I was asked to post a couple of pics of it when I got it. So (hopefully), here they are. Sorry for the lousy quality. I was in a hurry.

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Quick shot

Sorry I don't have something more interesting, but I wanted to take a shot of something with the Summicron 50, so my guitars volunteered to pose for me. This was a 6 second exposure at f/16. The weather should be nice here tomorrow so I should be able to get out and get something a little more interesting.

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Oh! You lucky thing! I'm jealous.

looks as though it works okay, how far can you stop down and still focus easily?
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May I ask (I'm totally ignorant about 4/3 cameras) if this adapter lets you use Leica M lenses on the G1? Is there any focus indicator or fully manual? Can I use my 75mm Lux on this? Where do I go to buy an adapter? Wow so many question and yet I have a dozen more if you guys would oblige me. Thanks.
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Last one for today

I got a little help from the wife and took a quick flower shot with the G1 and Summicron. This will have to do for today, it's time for this old guy to hit the sack. Looking forward to shooting with the M glass tomorrow.

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Oh! You lucky thing! I'm jealous.

looks as though it works okay, how far can you stop down and still focus easily?
If you have a lot of light, you can stop down all the way and still see what you're doing. I was shooting in very low light, so I had to open up a bit to focus and then stop back down.

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May I ask (I'm totally ignorant about 4/3 cameras) if this adapter lets you use Leica M lenses on the G1? Is there any focus indicator or fully manual? Can I use my 75mm Lux on this? Where do I go to buy an adapter? Wow so many question and yet I have a dozen more if you guys would oblige me. Thanks.
Yes, the shots I posted of the guitars and flowers were taken with a Leica Summicron 50/2. The adapters are available from a few places. You can find more info in this forum. I believe the 75 Lux should work, as long as the back end doesn't extend beyond the adapter by too much. Again, see the threads in this forum. One last thing, the 75 will effectively be a 150 on the G1.

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Thanks Bill. I'll go and find more info because I want to shoot with my Leica lenses agin but refuse to pay the big bucks Leica is asking
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This is getting really exciting!
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Bill, Thanks for the pics of the adapter! The rear side shows that this is a high quality adapter (I have not seen the Novoflex one). That little black disc (thin aluminum or plastic?) is very very important and takes care of the shiny metal parts (RF coupling and other bits) and the reflections thereof from the Leica mount lenses (this is a major headache leading to loss of contrast and even occasional color fringing and the like).

Your test shots already illustrate that it is a good one!

Oh, another aspect of the rear ring is that it addresses the compatibility question of Leica lenses.

If a lens fits the adapter then it won't cause any troubles with the G1's shutter!

Clever design!
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This is getting really exciting!
Certainly is and I don't have one which is worse
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Bill awesome and thanks for posting this or maybe I should curse you. LOL
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This one looks nice, it will be interesting to compare the 'other' two that will be arriving soon.
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Very nice shots Bill. How do the G1/Summicron files look compared to the M8/Summicron?
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Very nice shots Bill. How do the G1/Summicron files look compared to the M8/Summicron?
Thanks. That's one of the things I want to find out myself. The different crop factors will complicate things a bit, but I am curious to see how the G1 sensor compares to the M8 sensor. As soon as I can do some comparison shots, I'll post my findings here. And I'm sure I won't be the only one doing that, so things should be getting interesting.

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Bill awesome and thanks for posting this or maybe I should curse you. LOL
Guy, since you were at least partly responsible for my getting involved with Leica and the M8, I think I'm entitled to a little payback.

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LOL get in-line Bill it is a loooooooooooooooong one. I have spouses that throw rocks at me for spending there play money on camera's there spouses bought.
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LOL get in-line Bill it is a loooooooooooooooong one. I have spouses
Really Guy? How many?
Do they ALL throw rocks at you?

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YES
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LOL get in-line Bill it is a loooooooooooooooong one. I have spouses that throw rocks at me for spending there play money on camera's there spouses bought.
In that case Guy, the next time I buy something, I'm going to tell my wife that it's your fault! So if you ever make it to Tokyo, better be prepared to dodge some Japanese rocks.

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There is a joke about getting stoned, somewhere in here.
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One from lunch time

I'm at the office now and don't want to post much until I can get home and see things on a better monitor. However, I kind of liked this shot, so here goes nothing. This was with the Summicron at f/2.

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Bill, you have to stop torturing those of us who don't have the adapter yet! Nice separation.

I just realised that you are in Tokyo no wonder you managed to get the Rayqual so quickly. I emailed them but have not heard from them.
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Bill, you have to stop torturing those of us who don't have the adapter yet! Nice separation.

I just realised that you are in Tokyo no wonder you managed to get the Rayqual so quickly. I emailed them but have not heard from them.
Sorry about the torture. I'm sure everyone will have an adapter soon.

I don't think the folks at Rayqual have any English ability. You'd probably be better off contacting CameraQuest, as they will apparently be the distributor in the US.

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OK, just one more!

I couldn't resist. Here's one with the CV 75.

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Bill. I just heard back from Stephen Gandy and he'll only get his stock in late January! Argh... Is there any where else one can get hold of an adapter? I'm in Singapore so it make no difference if it is shipped from Japan or Hong Kong or USA.
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Hi, Just for info, my m23/M adapter (product code MFT/LEM) arrived from Novoflex yesterday. It doesn't seem to be on their web site yet but you can order it by email from service@novoflex.com or by phone or fax to Tel.: 08331/88888 Fax: 08331/47174. The contact person I dealt with was Lydia Ernst. I don't know if she speaks English since I communicated in German.

Unfortunately no time to play until the weekend!

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Hey Martin. Thanks for the heads up.

Just to confirm, this is the adapter for using Leica M lenses on the G1 right? May I ask how much is Novoflex selling this? Thanks.

Please email me if you do not want to post the price you paid.
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Bill. I just heard back from Stephen Gandy and he'll only get his stock in late January! Argh... Is there any where else one can get hold of an adapter? I'm in Singapore so it make no difference if it is shipped from Japan or Hong Kong or USA.
As Martin said, Novoflex is making an adapter, and John Milich (not sure about the spelling - sorry John!) will be making one soon. They are sure to be readily available somewhere soon.

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Thanks all. I have a Novoflex on the way. All's well now so I'm going to pick up my G1 in the meantime.
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In that case Guy, the next time I buy something, I'm going to tell my wife that it's your fault! So if you ever make it to Tokyo, better be prepared to dodge some Japanese rocks.

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Geez Bill this thing is getting harder to resist, they look really good.
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UK distributor for the Novoflex adapters is Speed Graphic, www.speedgraphic.co.uk, £125 + VAT.
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I couldn't resist. Here's one with the CV 75.

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Bill, Thanks for the nice shots. I have the CV 75 and that is one of the first I wanted to try on the G1 so this was a great preview. Is it difficult to focus the longer focal lengths without OIS or were you using a tripod?

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I couldn't resist. Here's one with the CV 75.

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This is lovely. Since I don't know the lens, I can only comment on the composition, subject (I'm a sucker for Japanese maple leaves LOL).

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UK distributor for the Novoflex adapters is Speed Graphic, www.speedgraphic.co.uk, £125 + VAT.
I'd already posted that somewhere - I've ordered one, they were expecting them this week sometime.

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Sorry for the info duplication. Lydia at Novoflex said she had sent two to Speed Graphic and there are three people waiting for them there (4 now); looks like you have a 2/3 chance of being the lucky one! Lydia also said she is sending more out today.
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Mine shipped 6 days ago from Germany, how long does mail take to Texas?? My bit is chomped.
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Surface mail's about 6 weeks, LOL. If it's air, should be with you any day unless US customs are sitting on it.
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This is lovely. Since I don't know the lens, I can only comment on the composition, subject (I'm a sucker for Japanese maple leaves LOL).

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Hi Diane,

The CV 75mm f/2.5 Color Heliar is one of Cosina Voigtlander's "sleeper" lenses. High quality at a low price. Take a look at Sean Reid's review of the 75mm RF lenses for details. On the G1 this lens becomes a 150mm f/2.5. I'm encouraged by Bill's nice image wiith this lens on the G1. Here is a sample image taken with the CV 75 on my M8

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The CV 75mm f/2.5 Color Heliar is one of Cosina Voigtlander's "sleeper" lenses. High quality at a low price. Take a look at Sean Reid's review of the 75mm RF lenses for details.
If you pay for the review, the price won't be low.
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Geez Bill this thing is getting harder to resist, they look really good.
Guy, there's an easy solution for that, go buy a G1!

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Bill, Thanks for the nice shots. I have the CV 75 and that is one of the first I wanted to try on the G1 so this was a great preview. Is it difficult to focus the longer focal lengths without OIS or were you using a tripod?

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Carl,

It became real obvious with the 75 how shaky I am (explains a lot of the motion blur I have been getting lately - must be old age ), but that shot was hand held. It is very easy to focus with the G1. Much easier than the M8, at least for me.

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This is lovely. Since I don't know the lens, I can only comment on the composition, subject (I'm a sucker for Japanese maple leaves LOL).

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Thanks Diane. We had a lot of rain here recently and the leaves are everywhere. I'm afraid I got a little carried away with leaf pictures.

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Hi Diane,

The CV 75mm f/2.5 Color Heliar is one of Cosina Voigtlander's "sleeper" lenses. High quality at a low price. Take a look at Sean Reid's review of the 75mm RF lenses for details. On the G1 this lens becomes a 150mm f/2.5. I'm encouraged by Bill's nice image wiith this lens on the G1. Here is a sample image taken with the CV 75 on my M8

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The 75 is a really nice lens, especially for the money. And it is a pleasure to use on the G1, although it's hard to hold it steady without a tripod. I also have the APO Lanthar 90/3.5 which I haven't tried yet. I don't know if I'll be able to hand hold that one. Today I'm planning to try the Nokton 40/1.4.

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Color-heliar 75

Here's another shot with the Heliar, with some bokeh.

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Here's another shot with the Heliar, with some bokeh.

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Fantastic shots, Bill. I also have the CV75/2.5. The reason I bought the G1 was exactly to be able to use the M lenses with a bit more tele reach as well as having a good camera for those lazy days when I want to take a zoom. I think (and my bank balance hopes!) that with the M8, G1 and DLux4 there will be no reason to buy another camera ever again

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Can you please post FULL SIZE raw and jpeg samples of your great Leica Lenses on Panasonic G1?
By posting a 1mp sample means nothing about image quality
Very easily a crap lens could be good at 1mp!
PLEASE FULL SIZE!
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P.S.
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Here's another shot with the Heliar, with some bokeh.

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Bill, that's a lovely shot, but, there seems to be a rather brutal roll-off on the highlights on the flower - is that recoverable, did you shoot raw?
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