![]() |
|
|||||||
| Register | Gallery | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Forum Home | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
| 4/3rds Cameras Includes Micro 4/3rds Cameras |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 |
|
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
Has everyone seen this post on '1001 Noisy Cameras'?
The amusing Japanese-to-Googlish translation from the original digitalcamera.jp posting states: Half-size SLR "PEN" philosophy of the "Eye MAIKUROFOSAZU a" June 15, said. 7 The two weeks to launchThen again, maybe someone who actually reads Japanese can look at the original page and make better sense of it. Am I correct in thinking MAIKUROFOSAZU is a Japanese rendering of "Micro Four Thirds"...? |
|
|
|
#2 |
|
Super Duper
Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 3,422
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
MAIKURO is certainly Micro (how a Japanese, many other Asians would pronounce it).
The rest
|
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,960
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#4 | |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Northwestern Spain - the green bit 'cos it rains
Posts: 698
|
Re: Japanese
Quote:
Japanese phonetics does not contemplate the "clash" between two consonants such as "K" or "C" and "R" hence the miCRo word has to be pronounced with a vowel in the middle becoming maikUro. Other examples of introduction of Western culture and the subsequent phonetic interpretation are the words for "tie" and "stopwatch" which become "NekUtai" from the original "necktie"; here once again the hard "k" together with the "t" needs a "u" in the middle for easier acceptance, "stopwatch" is a classic example of this becoming "sUtopUwotchU". |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Subscriber Member
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
My Japanese is not all that great but it's good enough to make sense of the digitalcamera.jp post. I think the most interesting points are:
* the Olympus micro-4/3rds camera(s) have been designed to carry on the philosophy of the "silver-halide" era PEN half-frame cameras; * about a third of compact camera users are considering moving up to a DSLR but don't because those cameras are too big, heavy, expensive, and complex -- these users are seen as the target for the micro-4/3rds models; * this is the strategy by which Olympus can "revive their imaging business". It's really encouraging that Olympus sees micro-4/3rds as the logical descendants of the PEN series cameras, given that an ongoing criticism of the 4/3rds system is that the cameras and lenses are larger than the sensor size warrants. What's perhaps less encouraging is that the target audience for the new cameras is compact users who don't want to deal with "complexity". But then, the target audience for the Panasonic G1 was supposed to be "soccer moms" and it's become a huge hit with a very different audience. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
I agree that it's interesting that Olympus sees µ4/3 as the descendent of the Pen series cameras.
(However, it's important to remember that the Pen line included not only the Pen F, Pen FT and Pen FV SLRs, but a long series of somewhat plebian half-frame viewfinder cameras with scale-focusing lenses -- which may not have been admired as passionately but which sold in much larger numbers. So, in noting that the µ4/3 line is supposed to carry on "the philosophy of the Pen cameras," I still have to wonder: which Pen cameras?) Since Olympus already has a big development investment in non-micro Four Thirds SLRs and lenses, this statement may simply mean that they see µ4/3 as a smaller, less-fully-featured alternative to their existing Four Thirds line -- much as the Pen cameras were an alternative to the standard-size Olympus full-frame cameras, which included leaf-shutter RF cameras, a short-lived full-size SLR (the Olympus FTL) and the compact OM-series SLRs. Oh, well, I guess we'll find out on June 15! Which reminds me: any Japanese-literate readers who can explain the meaning of the curious phrases "June 15 7 the two weeks to launch" and "Monday June 15 7 The two week sale"? Could this mean that whatever they're announcing on June 15 will be on sale (somewhere) as soon as two weeks after that!? Speaking of curious phrases: Does anyone know what Olympus president Kikukawa meant in reference to the Altoids-tin mockup when he said, ""I think that is a little DASAI"...? There seems to be no Googlish translation for this word. Last edited by Ranger 9; 13th May 2009 at 21:25. |
|
|
|
#7 |
|
Subscriber Member
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
dasai means "primitive" or "unsophisticated" so he probably meant that the actual camera(s) will be more sophisticated (fully-featured) than that mockup.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 | |
|
Super Duper
Senior Member |
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
I'm afraid what we'll get then is one, or possibly two bodies, which don't really clarify which direction they really are headed.
On the other hand, let's look on the bright side. How about 1 camera weather sealed, small, LCD with optional viewfinder with electronic connection with framelines etc. Another cheap and cheerful body. a couple of kit zooms and half a dozen fast primes! Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 |
|
Subscriber
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
If it doesn't have an intergrated view finder (no humps, Buffalo Bill) and the clean lines of the PEN F. It's still DOA as I see it.
__________________
"The market wants a Leica to be a Leica: the inheritor of tradition, the subject of lore, and indisputably a mark of status to own." Mike Johnston |
|
|
|
|
|
#10 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,960
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
If it has in-body vibration reduction, I'm buying.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#11 |
|
Super Duper
Senior Member |
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
What . . . even if it has a hump
![]() ![]() ![]() (me too - as long as it's small(ish) |
|
|
|
|
|
#12 | |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,960
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
Quote:
'At the meeting to announce the financial results, President Kikukawa commented in reference to the exterior design of the mockup in the presentation material "I think the design is a little uncool/ugly/poor [lots of ways to translate "dasai"]. "This is not the final version, and it will change quite a lot" he suggested regarding changing the exterior design.' |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#13 |
|
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
Thank you, Monza!
(I think I need to get a vanity license plate reading "DASAI" for my uncool/ugly/poor little Japanese car...) Personally, I can't afford to buy a new µ4/3 camera no matter how un-dasai it might be, but I'd really like it if they'd announce some fixed-focal-length lenses to go with it... |
|
|
|
#14 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,960
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
Oh, 'dasai.' Kinda like 'Prius.'
|
|
|
|
|
|
#16 | |
|
Super Moderator
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
Quote:
![]() ...Brian....do you have any good contacts
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#17 |
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 87
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
By the way, will it give a hard time for those making decision between GH1 and the OM m4/3? The brief information shows that the new OM has 720p movie function but no detail of fps and audio. It is really "itchy" thing in our mind.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#18 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North Carolina western foothills
Posts: 1,572
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
I'm not planning to buy an Oly or the GH1 in the near future, but I am interested in any lens Oly announces. I have the Panny 20 f/1.7 on my 'to buy' list for the Fall but would love to see more choices.
In the future, when I'm ready to upgrade for whatever reason, I will look at both Panasonic and Oly's m4/3rds, but if Oly doesn't implement an EVF with MF assist--it won't be in contention no matter what else. Diane |
|
|
|
|
|
#19 | |
|
Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 69
|
Re: Japanese
Quote:
Swedes frequently stumble upon 3 in a row of the very same consonant. Lest we get too stuck in writing and our daily tungtwisting, we drop one of them; finish the sentence, then back to normal. Silence. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#20 |
|
Super Duper
Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 3,422
|
Re: Japanese
|
|
|
|
|
|
#21 | |
|
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
Quote:
Thanks to all our Japanese-speaking "decoders" for helping sort this out! Now all we have to do is speculate on what kind of camera guts Olympus plans to put into their sardine tin... |
|
|
|
|
#22 |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,960
|
Re: Olympus: Official June 15 announcement, but of what?
Or, speculate on what kind of tin, to replace the 'dasai' one.
|
|
|
|
![]() |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|