907x 100c - Phocus Mobile 2 - Top Overlay Crops Live View on Ipad

[foster_jb]

Hi,

I am new to Hasselblad and Phocus, although I have a lot of experience with Phase One and Capture One.

I bought a 907x 100C, and I am wirelessly tethering it to an Ipad Mini. The top portion of the live view frame has an overlay, displaying the date and battery power. But... it crops into the live view frame, which is annoying. I would really prefer to see the full frame of the live view.

I am probably missing something simply, but I cannot find how to turn off this upper overlay. Or to move the live view screen down lower (there is more space available under the live view framing...).

If I press the "X" on the left of the overlay, then it turns off live view and returns me to the gallery. If I try either of the 3-dot options, I don't find an option for removing the overlay.

I have attached some photos which show this behavior on the Ipad Mini screen, as opposed to the full live view screen on the digital back itself.

If anyone has advice, I would love to hear it!

Thank you,
John

 

[tcrock]

I also found this baffling when i tested the Cfv100c recently. I was impressed by the wireless live view functionality generally but this aspect just doesn’t make sense.
I hope it gets fixed in a firmware update.

Tim

 

[Godfrey]

This issue has nothing to do with the CFV100c (or CFVII 50c). It is completely a matter of the Phocus Mobile 2 app's implementation.

You'll notice that if you have the iPad in horizontal orientation, the top of the camera display area is covered by the status/menu display by a small amount ...



But if you rotate the device by 90 degrees to vertical orientation, the live view display area is recalculated and the entire image from the LCD is displayed on the screen ...



So the error lies in the implementation of the app ... In horizontal mode, it would be better to accept a slightly smaller Live View image area that is 100% coverage or provide the option to remove the status (and/or minimize the control interface).

All we can do is issue bug reports/enhancement requests to Hasselblad to promote that they fix this aspect of Phocus Mobile 2 behavior. Meanwhile, we have to work around it by rotating the iPad display device to enable 100% coverage on screen for precise framing.

G

 

[foster_jb]

Thank you both for your replies!

Godfrey, I did also notice that it does show the full live view in vertical orientation. But on the Ipad mini, the size of the live view is not any bigger than what is on the digital back, unfortunately. So this defeats the purpose I had in mind.

I will contact Hasselblad directly about this. Hopefully they can solve this in next versions.

Thank you,
John

 

[jduncan]

Hi,

I am new to Hasselblad and Phocus, although I have a lot of experience with Phase One and Capture One.

I bought a 907x 100C, and I am wirelessly tethering it to an Ipad Mini. The top portion of the live view frame has an overlay, displaying the date and battery power. But... it crops into the live view frame, which is annoying. I would really prefer to see the full frame of the live view.

I am probably missing something simply, but I cannot find how to turn off this upper overlay. Or to move the live view screen down lower (there is more space available under the live view framing...).

If I press the "X" on the left of the overlay, then it turns off live view and returns me to the gallery. If I try either of the 3-dot options, I don't find an option for removing the overlay.

I have attached some photos which show this behavior on the Ipad Mini screen, as opposed to the full live view screen on the digital back itself.

If anyone has advice, I would love to hear it!

Thank you,
John

Sweet setup! I hope you find a fix or workaround for the issue
Best regards.

 

[Tashat]

Hi John,
This looks rather frustrating and something I’ll probably be doing in the near future. Hope you have some luck with an update.
Could I please ask; do you notice a difference in the display of your Cfv 100c to your iPad colour and contrast wise. I am having issues with a strong magenta cast on my camera screen and higher contrast vs my computer or phone mainly when photographing white scenes. The white balance looks correct on my computer when tethering or transferred but very magenta on the camera screen.

I have had trouble photographing it, as my phone keeps auto white balancing to my camera screen but see that your iPad vs your camera looks different also? Trying to work out if it’s just my camera or somewhat “normal”

 

[foster_jb]

Hi John,
This looks rather frustrating and something I’ll probably be doing in the near future. Hope you have some luck with an update.
Could I please ask; do you notice a difference in the display of your Cfv 100c to your iPad colour and contrast wise. I am having issues with a strong magenta cast on my camera screen and higher contrast vs my computer or phone mainly when photographing white scenes. The white balance looks correct on my computer when tethering or transferred but very magenta on the camera screen.

I have had trouble photographing it, as my phone keeps auto white balancing to my camera screen but see that your iPad vs your camera looks different also? Trying to work out if it’s just my camera or somewhat “normal”

Hi Tashat,

In brief, no, I have not noticed anything abnormal with the display on the 100C back.

The color doesn't exactly match the Ipad or my monitors, but I don't expect an exact match. As I am sure you know, even when color calibrating multiple devices, there is still some variation.

Some thoughts:

1) Are you shooting with the 28P lens? Others have remarked that this lens had / has a strong magenta cast.

2) Have you tried changing the white balance settings on the display itself? Perhaps your display and your monitor are using different white balances.

3) Have you tried changing the display settings in the menu? I remember seeing some options. I haven't looked hard at them.

Best of luck!

John

 

[FloatingLens]

1) Are you shooting with the 28P lens? Others have remarked that this lens had / has a strong magenta cast.

As far as I saw evidence from other members, magenta cast issue is absent/negligible on the 100c.

 

[Godfrey]

I've heard of color casts with all my lenses, on all my camera systems, from time to time.
I must not be very critical as I've never noticed it.

I always capture raw format. Then, I just click on a bright grey area in the photos with whatever white balance tool is in the app I'm using, and white balance is properly adjusted.

G

 

[Tashat]

Hi Tashat,

In brief, no, I have not noticed anything abnormal with the display on the 100C back.

The color doesn't exactly match the Ipad or my monitors, but I don't expect an exact match. As I am sure you know, even when color calibrating multiple devices, there is still some variation.

Some thoughts:

1) Are you shooting with the 28P lens? Others have remarked that this lens had / has a strong magenta cast.

2) Have you tried changing the white balance settings on the display itself? Perhaps your display and your monitor are using different white balances.

3) Have you tried changing the display settings in the menu? I remember seeing some options. I haven't looked hard at them.

Best of luck!

John

Thanks John, not shooting on the 28P and have tried various screens and they all look perfect on the computer monitor, phone screen, MacBook screen but heavily magenta and contrasty on the camera. I have been in contact with Hasselblad and they are aware of the problem supposedly. Hoping for a fix as I believe other people have had the same issue. Perhaps there’s a bad batch out there as some don’t notice any issue where it is very obvious on my display.

 

[Tashat]

I've heard of color casts with all my lenses, on all my camera systems, from time to time.
I must not be very critical as I've never noticed it.

I always capture raw format. Then, I just click on a bright grey area in the photos with whatever white balance tool is in the app I'm using, and white balance is properly adjusted.

G

Thanks Godfrey, it is not an issue with the files but the camera display having the strong magenta cast when accurately white balanced. If minor I would be happy to put up with it, but I have compared it to other camera screens and it is significantly off. Hasselblad are aware of the issue so I hope the next update addresses this.

 

[Godfrey]

Thanks Godfrey, it is not an issue with the files but the camera display having the strong magenta cast when accurately white balanced. If minor I would be happy to put up with it, but I have compared it to other camera screens and it is significantly off. Hasselblad are aware of the issue so I hope the next update addresses this.

How do you calibrate the on-camera display for white balance? I've never done anything like that with my 907x ... I just use it and the colors on the LCD look about right. Far as I'm aware, you can only set the brightness and contrast... ????

G

 

[wattsy]

As far as I know you can only adjust brightness. What I have noticed is that, when in the field, the display often looks much more contrasty than it does when viewed indoors in subdued lighting but I haven't found that a problem in practice.

 

[Tashat]

How do you calibrate the on-camera display for white balance? I've never done anything like that with my 907x ... I just use it and the colors on the LCD look about right. Far as I'm aware, you can only set the brightness and contrast... ????

G

there is currently no way to calibrate the camera screen, only select white balance and screen brightness. If there was a way to calibrate it would solve my issue. Fingers crossed!

 

[Godfrey]

there is currently no way to calibrate the camera screen, only select white balance and screen brightness. If there was a way to calibrate it would solve my issue. Fingers crossed!

Then what does your statement mean: "Thanks Godfrey, it is not an issue with the files but the camera display having the strong magenta cast when accurately white balanced. ..."
I don't know about anyone else, but I look at the LCD or EVF on a camera and use it to frame and focus, not to evaluate white balance or color.

G