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are they serious? tether options capture one ipad

drevil

Well-known member
Staff member
i make it short, the IQ150 is not supported by capture one for ipad for tethering via usb?
xxxxxcuse me? this is truly a joke
 

buildbot

Well-known member
I don't have an IQ4, but I agree, it's kinda a joke. The IQ4 is a full on linux computer, they can write software to emulate a network over USB if it's an Apple limitation around USB device types allowed. Linux has the CDC (NCM) USB Device class built in, which allows TCP/IP over USB. Someone might even be able to hack that to be enabled given an IQ4 and a week of time!

The entire tethering fiasco with the IQ4 was/is really weird to see.
 

Steve Hendrix

Well-known member
i make it short, the IQ150 is not supported by capture one for ipad for tethering via usb?
xxxxxcuse me? this is truly a joke

But why would you use USB when you could use Ethernet? It is in every way superior.

- Locking cable element for secure tether.

- Practically unlimited tethering cable length.

- Able to simultaneously attach an external battery (via Belkin Ethernet Adapter with USB C port) that can run your iPad all day long.

https://www.captureintegration.com/...e-one-iq4-series-digital-backs-now-available/


Steve Hendrix/CI
 

buildbot

Well-known member
But why would you use USB when you could use Ethernet? It is in every way superior.

- Locking cable element for secure tether.

- Practically unlimited tethering cable length.

- Able to simultaneously attach an external battery (via Belkin Ethernet Adapter with USB C port) that can run your iPad all day long.

https://www.captureintegration.com/...e-one-iq4-series-digital-backs-now-available/


Steve Hendrix/CI
Avoiding a USB to ethernet adapter dongle? You bring up good points though.

Someone might even be able to hack that to be enabled given an IQ4 and a week of time!
(Anyone want donate 17K for one?)
 

akaru

Active member
But why would you use USB when you could use Ethernet? It is in every way superior.
USB is practically much faster and can charge directly. Locking attachments are available if needed. For a studio setup, I can see Ethernet being better, but for in the field I’d take usb.
 

Steve Hendrix

Well-known member
USB is practically much faster and can charge directly. Locking attachments are available if needed. For a studio setup, I can see Ethernet being better, but for in the field I’d take usb.
I think this is a subjective decision.

How does the iPad get charged if the IQ4 150 is taking up the USB C port?

I don't know how much faster USB C would be than Ethernet for IQ4 150 files to come in.

Brad prefers the advantages of Ethernet. Even if USB were offered, he wouldn't use it. Others may feel different. But I think it is important to quantify the reasons for one's preference. Ethernet often gets overlooked as a desirable tethering option, so when someone sees no USB C support, they may not realize there is a very, very viable alternative.


Steve Hendrix/CI
 

buildbot

Well-known member
i am talking about the IQ1-50, not IQ4
Oh! My mistake.

That I think was a limitation of iOS/lightning is what I've heard. IDK if that is the case with modern USB-C iPads and iPhones. No incentive for C1 to update to supporting the IQ1/2/3 gen USB mode really, since they are different companies now.
 

drevil

Well-known member
Staff member
i mean lots of cameras are supported via the USB-C port of the ipad
well i will use a tablet hybrid laptop from MS for my assignment in august
 
I think this is a subjective decision.

How does the iPad get charged if the IQ4 150 is taking up the USB C port?

I don't know how much faster USB C would be than Ethernet for IQ4 150 files to come in.

Brad prefers the advantages of Ethernet. Even if USB were offered, he wouldn't use it. Others may feel different. But I think it is important to quantify the reasons for one's preference. Ethernet often gets overlooked as a desirable tethering option, so when someone sees no USB C support, they may not realize there is a very, very viable alternative.


Steve Hendrix/CI
Isn't connecting by ethernet a bit of a pain compared to USB? I'm sure I read (in one of these posts about C1 for iPad) that you have to reconnect in the software and it doesn't always connect without restarting C1, whereas USB can just be unplugged/plugged with no messing about. Maybe that's on C1 with a laptop, I know I unplug my back often when I need to move around and it just connects again with no hassles? Anyway I read something to that effect and thought there's another reason to give it a miss. I'd happily use ethernet if it connects automatically, my issue is not being able to work with sessions. Until it supports sessions (and LCC) I don't see it as a professional solution.
 

Steve Hendrix

Well-known member
Isn't connecting by ethernet a bit of a pain compared to USB? I'm sure I read (in one of these posts about C1 for iPad) that you have to reconnect in the software and it doesn't always connect without restarting C1, whereas USB can just be unplugged/plugged with no messing about. Maybe that's on C1 with a laptop, I know I unplug my back often when I need to move around and it just connects again with no hassles? Anyway I read something to that effect and thought there's another reason to give it a miss. I'd happily use ethernet if it connects automatically, my issue is not being able to work with sessions. Until it supports sessions (and LCC) I don't see it as a professional solution.
Brad says you plug it in, select your camera, and it works.

He uses it on every shoot. Not for editing, but just for tethering into an iPad instead of a laptop.


Steve Hendrix/CI
 
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cunim

Well-known member
Nope what? You encounter connection difficulties, or ... ?


Steve Hendrix/CI
Yep. I’ve summarized in earlier posts. Connection is …… quirky with the IQ4 and nonexistent with the GFX. Maybe it’s better now but I don’t really know because C1 does not reply to support requests

Why kick a dead horse? I use mobile and hope it will improve with time (including g usb-c)
 

Steve Hendrix

Well-known member
Yep. I’ve summarized in earlier posts. Connection is …… quirky with the IQ4 and nonexistent with the GFX. Maybe it’s better now but I don’t really know because C1 does not reply to support requests

Why kick a dead horse? I use mobile and hope it will improve with time (including g usb-c)

To provide clarity from my end, it doesn't matter to me whether someone uses C1 Mobile or not. I have no stake in it. My primary response was over the lack of USB support, and providing some insight into the alternative of ethernet, which some may disregard out of hand and thereby miss out on using the program should they want to, regardless of its shortcomings.


Steve Hendrix/CI
 

Adammork

Member
Yep. I’ve summarized in earlier posts. Connection is …… quirky with the IQ4 and nonexistent with the GFX. Maybe it’s better now but I don’t really know because C1 does not reply to support requests

Why kick a dead horse? I use mobile and hope it will improve with time (including g usb-c)
Capture One on iPad works now with usb-c and GFX 100II and since the last couple of releases actually quite good…. I use it a lot.

The key thing is the cable! at least the 100II is extremely picky, some TT‘s works, some don’t, same with Apple’s but the ones that connects is often very slow…

Area 51 have recently released a cable special designed for GFX it works very well all the time!

And it’s not only when tether to an iPad that the GFX is picky with the cable, the Area 51 cable have also enhanced the experience on the MacBook, the full res files is transferred almost immediately, same on the iPad, and the navigation of the camera is better/more stable.
 
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buildbot

Well-known member
same with Apple’s but the ones that connects is often very slow…
Is it the USB-C power cable? Those are USB2 and very slow (480Mbs)

the Area 51 cable have also enhanced the experience on the MacBook, the full res files is transferred almost immediately, same on the iPad, and the navigation of the camera is better/more stable.
Sounds like that's working at USB3 speeds, 5-10Gb/s (IDK what a GFX supports, the MacBook will do 20Gb/s USB3, 40Gb/s USB4)
 

Godfrey

Well-known member
But why would you use USB when you could use Ethernet? It is in every way superior.

- Locking cable element for secure tether.

- Practically unlimited tethering cable length.

- Able to simultaneously attach an external battery (via Belkin Ethernet Adapter with USB C port) that can run your iPad all day long.

https://www.captureintegration.com/...e-one-iq4-series-digital-backs-now-available/
"Every way superior"? hmm.

Another bulky gizmo to have to pay for with a locking plug that's so handy to pull over tripod and camera with by accident...
I prefer WiFi tethering for working settings and capture, and local storage on the camera, not the iPad or iPhone.

But that's me. And I only rarely use tethering at all, because I find it clumsy and inconvenient in almost all cases other than tabletop and macro work.

G
 

MartinN

Well-known member
Live view tethering with Sony is quite convenient when doing focusing in astrophotography. It gets tiring to focus(😉) on the 3 inch screen, especially in awkward situations. But storing the images on memory card.
 
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