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Fun with the Ricoh GR IV (2025)

raist3d

Well-known member
FUN with Ricoh GR IV

Finally got my GR IV. I ordered directly from Ricoh USA when they said briefly they had them in stock as BHPhoto went to limbo with my preorder.
I am just two days with it as I write this so still coming up with things. A few quick thoughts:

- AF overall is better, but I found some situations where the GR IV wouldn't lock focus or lock appropriately that I thought were relatively easy. Distant neon sign. I don't quite recall the GRIIIx doing this.
- AF in day is decently fast
- AF at night still can be slower but decidedly better than what I remember of the GRIIIx (not same focal length)

- Battery sure feels a notch better
- Love from the get go the STD setting for color

- Grain options seem nice (only tried B&W, need to try color). You can set grain size, intensity.
- Built in memory I was afraid would be slow to write internally but it writes pretty fast
- LCD is probably the best I have seen for daylight use in brightness- if you turn to special sunny bright, and even in general with the auto-dim no more hassle of having to lower it to night shooting and bring back up in daylight. In terms of visibility and power this is like the GRIII series, I believe they are using a Sony WRGB panel (white-rgb) in which by adding white pixels they can increase contrast/brightness for daylight along with the thing-gapless glass or whatever that LCD tech is.

- IBIS works better, but I am not getting the 1'' IBIS Hand held shot that easily as some early "reviews" said. In some cases it's almost there with a notch blur but the shot still works. Still I can get some of those.
- Lens is quite sharp as usual
- Lens bokeh seems pretty great in the shots you have it - so far seeing pretty rounded bokeh-balls, no "cat eyes" bokeh.

- Would prefer a way to turn of the Ricoh's "accelerator" built in baked in raw noise reductoin
- Saw DXO Photolab will support it in November this year (from DXO's own website)
- Overall high iso image quality seems to have gone up. Hard to quantify, I guess by 1/2 a stop to maybe the 1 stop claim the company made (I would need a GRIII on hand to compare and Id on't have it)

- The new price (in USA) with tariffs does sting a bit considering it's a camera that you hope doesn't get dust as previous model as easily at least.

Ricoh's UI and usability continues to be a class cat. The camera design like the GRiii/GRiiix UI makes so much sense and presents its features in an accessible way without feeling like feature creep. It's like their camera/features have been tried by real photographers.

I am giving it a spin and see how it goes in my 30 day window, as I shoot a lot at night. Been shooting it in 4:3 ratio as I like that ratio and I used it a lot from my 4/3rds and m43rds days.

Using this camera so far has been like meeting an old friend (since I had used the original APSC GR before), but it's a faster more responsive friend :)

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1 second shot:

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- Ricardo
 
Mm, as there are not that many GR shooters around here, why the type/version specific thread ?
Why not something like a generic 'Ricoh GR' so every GR-owner can join in ...

Just saying ...
 
Mm, as there are not that many GR shooters around here, why the type/version specific thread ?
Why not something like a generic 'Ricoh GR' so every GR-owner can join in ...

Just saying ...
You aren't "just saying"- you are telling me something ;-)

The reason why I opened with fun with Ricoh GR IV is because this is a very recent model that just came out and thought some people would be interested in an impressions of that specific model. My plan was to join the ongoing general Ricoh GR thread.

https://www.getdpi.com/forum/index.php?threads/fun-with-the-ricoh-gr-iii.65914/

You may notice there's also a "Fun with Ricoh GRIII" thread also. Does that make sense?

- Ricardo
 
More on the impressions:
- Set the LCD today to high bright for sun (sun mode or whatever it's called). It is the BEST LCD I have seen in years that is quite visible in bright sunlight... but the battery lasted notably less and went from a "full" icon to a sudden shutdown. When I tried to turn the camera on the red icon of battery charge came on and shut down the camera in 1-3 seconds.

After waiting two minutes I was able to boot it up, change the LCD setting to default Auto and the camera lasted about 2 more minutes.

So the sunny LCD mode works great, except it will drink he battery. I was already using the camera a bit so it's not like I couldn't shoot, but it felt like the previous generation battery or even a bit shorter than that.

- Battery seems to charge reasonably fast when using a good power supply and a good USBC power delivery cable (like then included with the camera).

- Focus in daylight is pretty decent.
- Some little details again, for the UI, as a master class act. For example some options in the in-camera raw converter- if you tap and hold the d-pad button up to go all the way to the very top, it does that and stops there, doesn't "wrap around." But if you tap once more up after doing that, the selections do wrap around. This makes so much usability sense.
- Flipping between ISO manual and Auto ISO its pretty fast- just tap the ISO button and hit the FN button to toggle. In manual ISO you can change the ISO using the +/- buttons that normally are used for exp. compensation when in manual ISO. Or you can toggle to Auto ISO and use them as exp. compensation.

- mode dial feels a bit flimsy on rotating. Or maybe a tad cheap.. I think the GRIIIx felt more solid here.
- when viewing photos in playback you can bring the playback process/in-camera raw menu with the tap of the movie button on the left. No need to navigate the menu for that
- ergonomically speaking the main issue I have noticed is that if you are not careful you may hit the +/- rocker and change your EV compensation out of 0.0. This has happened to me a few times, I am guessing I'll get used to how to avoid it like I got a bit more used to the tight controls on the Fuji XM5.

- Ricardo

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Shot an event today with my Fuji X-T50, but since I mostly had it with my XF35 F1.4 (52.5mm equiv) and didn't want to swap to the XF23 F2.0 prime (the other lens I had), but had the Ricoh, decided to try the Ricoh for a few wide shots. It worked for that.

Went for a slight long shutter here as I would imagine the disco balls reflections as it rotated would blur and create some lines.

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Couple more details from today
- At one point the Ricoh shut down on me with battery life still going. I had to turn it back on
- At one point the Ricoh had shut down and would not turn back on. That was a bit uneasy, I opened the battery compartment, took battery out, put back in and then worked.

These two rare (so far) instances I think will be fixed with a firmware update. Seems like bugs. I had plenty of battery.

- Battery life seems def. better than GR III as long as you don't use the power-sun view LCD mode.
- Feeling mixed about baked-in RAW noise reduction which Ricoh is doing. Seems like this baking in starts at ISO 200.

Color moire - photographed a dancing model at an event today and the fabric did some nasty color moire. I did not have the anti-alias filter sim on, which would have avoided it.

For the people that believe Fuji X-trans doesn't do anything- while I should have shot the same subject with one of my Fujis to really compare- I can say from experience while X-trans can still do a weird color moire, it would probably have nailed this right with not much color moire at all.

I tried to remove it in Iridient Digital and while it diminished its intensity a notch it's still obviously there.
200% crop shown in Irident below so you can see what I am talking about. See just left of hand.

Looks like this website magnified the image another 1x.

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JPEG out of camera shown below. Color is pretty great in several modes. Ricoh/Pentax got WB nice and they have the middle ground, warm and white priority.


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This is my last post on the GR IV here. A couple of things
- I have been able to somewhat consistently do 1 second IBIS at night
- The camera one time shut down on me. I was wondering what was going on that it would not turn back on. Seems like some weird issue with the power button and moving the mode dial(!). But that stopped and haven't been able to quite re-create. Either it's some mechanical defect as you rotate the dial that affects the button of power up in my camera, or a firmware upgradable bug issue.

From last Friday, Sausalito, CA. Developed from RAW using Iridient Digital 5.0 on Mac. I am still a bit not a super fan of Ricoh baking in high ISO noise reduction. I feel like Iridient is not doing it's very best job that could be in details at time but it's good enough. DXO says they will support the camera in November so we'll see how that goes with their AI noise reduction.

The car shot shown below is an ISO 500 pushed to what would be sort of ISO 1750. The license plate has been clumsily removed using MacOS Preview. The car shot original exposure is ISO 500, 1 second hand held F2.8. It was pretty dark.



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Thanks for your insights Ricardo.
Now overall, would you say it's a worthy upgrade, or is it marginal to the III?

BR
Oliver
 
Thanks for your insights Ricardo.
Now overall, would you say it's a worthy upgrade, or is it marginal to the III?

BR
Oliver

That honestly depends on each individual. I am at a point that the whole "upgrading" is obviously part GAS/addiction. One has to ask oneself what's the win, how much one really uses a GR and what could be better.

In my case I had no GR's so I am effectively getting a GR tool. To me the upgrades are good because a bit better battery and AF for me goes some ways, particularly as I often shoot at night. But someone who has a GRIII and has been getting what they want may really not benefit all that much.

The GRIV seems a more polished version of the gRIII, but whether that polish is worth the expense is up to each. I would say if you have a GRIII and you use it mostly with zone focusing, then the GRIV may be less attractive.

Image quality wise both are great, so that's not really what you are upgrading here. More about the "convenience" - the slightly better AF, the slightly better IBIS, etc.

- Ricardo
 
My GR IV came in about a week ago. Very familiar with some new features (IBIS) that I don't have on the GR II. I will probably trade the GR II for a new GR IV mono when they become available.

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Chickadee and shadow Cropped image processed from RAW in LR applied Super resolution option before uploading a jpg version.
 
Definitively curious to see what specific-features of the monochrome model Ricoh does.

- Ricardo
 
The white stuff returned last night and we will now be looking at white scenes for the next few months.
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