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Gibellini DCG66 Pre Order Launch Edition Announced

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Doppler9000

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Launch of the Gibellini DCG66.

CNC-machined camera body for Hasselblad CFV backs, Rodenstock lenses in mounts - 15,000 euro in a package with the CFV 100 and an HR 50mm lens.

Very attractive design, but is there a space in the market for this?
 

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ThdeDude

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Since no more COPAL shutter, I assume ES shutter only. Can you handhold with ES with that focal length?

(Don't know the read-out speed of the CFV 100 and any option for faster readout)
 
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Mexecutioner

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ThdeDude said:
Since no more COPAL shutter, I assume ES shutter only. Can you handhold with ES with that focal length?

(Don't know the read-out speed of the CFV 100 and any option for faster readout)
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I have shot handheld with 40mm with very good results, but it was in vey bright conditions.
 
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Paul Spinnler

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No shift, no x shutter, doesn't make sense handheld or as a tech cam. No SK lens compatibility, etc, etc. New unproven system. Re-sale value will be low as its a new system, tech cams are not en vogue, etc.

Essentially if you have money to burn and like nice looking things, but as a photographic tool it is not a practical option compared to the other complete systems in the market.

Alpa's TC has done this 15 years ago ...
 
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Mexecutioner

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I agree with Paul, I would not buy this thing over an Alpa. I can think of many $15K euro things I'd do first.
 
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John_McMaster

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How much do the back and lens cost on their own? I know the back only comes with the 907 body, and what mount is the lens in...

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Paul Spinnler

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Market in EU for CFV100 is 7800 incl. VAT, so street - if you phone around you should get 5-10% off from some re-seller - maybe 7250; the 50 HR new street should be around 5500-5750. Puts the "residual" of the cam and mount at 2k. But Gibellini gets more as he'll be able to buy the backs at mayb 6500 from Hasselblad and the 50 HR at 4000. So he'll make around 4-5k for anyone for falls for this.

Remember resale value will be basically very low as there's no system / community on the tech cam side for this system. And why the hell would you use a 50 HR on a crop MF sensor with nof shift with ES shutter limitation. Its a walkaround system with the big drawback that you need to watch out for wobble (e.g. fast, large subject movements, etc.). You can just buy a native lens ...

Essentially - 907 does the same, but better and for cheaper. Yes, you get Rodenstock HR quality, but w/o the use of shift the Digaron-W 50 is a bit of a waste of money. Its better to stay native. Its integrated, has a shutter, is as compact, etc.
 
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abruzzi

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I have a Gibellini 8x10. Its reasonably nice, but since my camera, they've really gone all-in on the high end market that I don't know if their designs justify. their top 8x10 is close to $20k. Mine looks like an early design prototype for the $20k camera except its carbon fiber and aluminum instead of titanium. I don't think it is a camera they offered for sale, which is why I think its a design prototype, but it doesn't have a level of finish that justifies crazy costs. Then again, that could be the prototype showing.
 
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TechTalk

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It's worth noting that Gibellini Design offers a wide range of large format cameras at different price points. Their Educational Line starts at €612 for a 4x5 and €1,184 for 8x10. Their Professional Line starts at €2,059 for 4x5 and €3,740 for 8x10. Their top-end models can be extremely expensive, but there's a variety of options to choose from at lower price points.

https://gibellinicamera.com
 
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Paul Spinnler

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Makes 0 sense conceptually. A handheld form factor that needs to sit on a tripod with a non-AF lens which you cannot use for what it is intended for. The only allure is literally how it looks and that you can customize the colours - its a pure luxury, vanity project.

I am not saying there's not a market for it. But practically it does not make a lot of sense. If you want to re-sell it you'll have a hard time.

Gibellini 8x10 cameras have had terrible resale value on the secondary market. They are all differently coloured and come in various generations as he essentially made tweaks to the designs over the years.

Haven't seen his analogue cameras sell fast or anywhere near retail at all and he has a history of iterating his stuff so next year you'll have maybe an improved MK II and then an MK III and then your "prototype" is even worth less as time goes on.

Arca and Alpa spend years on designs and then bring it out and then its a product to stand the test of time.
 
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ThdeDude

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Paul Spinnler said:
Makes 0 sense conceptually. A handheld form factor that needs to sit on a tripod with a non-AF lens which you cannot use for what it is intended for. ...
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For someone who already has the the CVF-100 and the 50mm Rodenstock, this might be something with some potential. (But then, just might use the HB 907X camera!)

I would have prefer here the small and lightweight Digaron-S 60mm over the Digaron-W 50mm. (But I think Digaron-S 60mm is now discontinued.)
 
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Thyl

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Not sure what is going on here, but notably, there is mentioned a gc lens mount, and the image shows a trigger button. Might be a bit more than just as pure mechanical adapter between a lens and a back.
 
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