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E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities
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k-hawinkler
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As I understand it, that applies to the movie/video image stabilization setting.
It’s one of the options. :grin:
Jorgen Udvang
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That's correct, and it also introduces a slight crop to the video format, so that it has some space to move around in. There's actually also a fourth type of stabilisation available, also electronic and also for video, and that's electronic image stabilisation (EIS) in post production, which crops the video a little bit more.
k-hawinkler
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Many thanks Jorgen, much appreciated. :salute:
Knorp
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No not four ... :shocked:
It’s electronic OR digital image stabilization, right ?
Knorp
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Okay, so there is S-IS (Still picture) and M-IS (Movie) ... :facesmack:
k-hawinkler
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Well Bart, in combined camera/lens there are 3.
However Jorgen pointed to a fourth technique used in video post production, no? Maybe we can ask Jorgen to provide more context and detail.
Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
Correct, and here's a guy who explains it much better than I would to. He uses DaVinci Resolve 16 from Blackmagic, a very good and fully functional video editing program that is free unless one needs the Studio version. There are also dedicated stabilisation apps around, some of them are free too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0wh5zZXgvw
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/
k-hawinkler
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Jorgen, many thanks again. :thumbs:
Knorp
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This is a PP software-thingy alright, undoubtedly very useful but still ...
I'll stick to my 'hardware' settings for lens, stills and, something I never use, the m-word ... :grin:
But thank you for pointing this out and providing the links, Jørgen !
Best regards.
Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
It's important also to point out that video is a totaly different animal from stills. Getting the footage is important, but it's with the editing the real work starts, and timewise, we often talk about multiples of the actual filming.This is a PP software-thingy alright, undoubtedly very useful but still ...
I'll stick to my 'hardware' settings for lens, stills and, something I never use, the m-word ... :grin:
But thank you for pointing this out and providing the links, Jørgen !
Best regards.
k-hawinkler
Well-known member
NSIDE Image Stabilization:
Olympus takes us on a geek’s tour of what makes IS work
by Dave Etchells posted Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 6:49 PM EDT
https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2020/07/29/inside-image-stabilization-a-geeks-tour-of-how-it-works-with-olympus
Lots of detail. :clap:
For starters, quote:
" Image Stabilization: The Basics
There are two main types of image stabilization: in-body image stabilization (often abbreviated to IBIS) or optical image stabilization (aka in-lens or lens-based IS). Each works to correct the fundamental problem caused by camera shake -- the image projected by the lens moving across the sensor surface during exposure. (There's also something called electronic or digital image stabilization, based on simply shifting the location of data readout on the face of the sensor. Electronic image stabilization can introduce motion artifacts that IBIS and lens-based IS avoids.)"
I think I have to pay more attention to his last point and maybe switch off electronic or digital image stabilization in my Olympus cameras for certain scenarios? :facesmack:
Well, reflecting on why I bought my first modern MFT camera, the Olympus OM-D E-M5, was its 5-axis IBIS and sensor IQ that finally was up to snuff. I had gotten the inferior Olympus E-P2 with attachable EVF before that to gain some experience with the EVF to be used on a Leica M camera that in the end I never acquired.
The above referenced article by Dave Etchells is really a tour de force covering Olympus' entire image stabilization efforts from its beginnings until now. Olympus' engineering and manufacturing accomplishments in this area are truly stunning. Arthur C. Clarke comes to mind who pointed out “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” I would like to suggest that statement also ought to be applied here.
Industrial development of MEMS, i.e. Micro Electro Mechanical Systems, has made this feat possible. Olympus and their component supplier made decisive contributions in this area and integrated those components into their cameras and lenses, especially into their latest ones with IBIS, Lens, and Sync stabilization.
There has never been any doubt in my mind about the quality of Olympus' SHG FT and PRO MFT lenses. Without question all of them technically outstanding. I am happy with my decision to add the E-M1 Mark III to my E-M1 Mark II and my E-M1 cameras. I clearly can see the progress in their User Interface as well, a welcome development.
The Olympus Workspace app contributes unique capabilities to my toolset. I used it also to import and export the following images, shot with the E-M1 Mark III.
Soothing Smoothness.
Olympus E-M1MarkIII + M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm F2.8 Pro + MC-20 @ 240 mm (480 mm in 35mm), f/5.6, 1/100 s, ISO 6400.
Excellent noise reduction.
Olympus E-M1MarkIII + M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm F4.0 IS Pro + MC-20 @ 600 mm (1200 mm in 35mm), f/8, 1/320 s, ISO 6400.
Impressed that C-AF found a focus point.
Olympus E-M1MarkIII + M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm F4.0 IS Pro + MC-20 @ 600 mm (1200 mm in 35mm), f/8, 1/320 s, ISO 250.
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k-hawinkler
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Northern Flicker
Olympus E-M1.3 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-20 @ 600 mm (1,200 mm in 35mm), f/11, 1/1000 s, ISO 2,000.
Olympus E-M1.3 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-20 @ 600 mm (1,200 mm in 35mm), f/11, 1/1000 s, ISO 2,000.
k-hawinkler
Well-known member
Red Ants
Olympus E-M1MarkII + OLYMPUS 300mm F2.8 SHG Lens + EC-20 @ 600 mm (1,200 mm in 35mm), f/8, 1/250 s, ISO 2,500, Date Taken 2017-04-23 19:20:36.
They changed Smugmug's UI quite a bit. :facesmack:
I have to get used to that. Oh well. :grin:
It's still buggy though. :thumbdown:
Olympus E-M1MarkII + OLYMPUS 300mm F2.8 SHG Lens + EC-20 @ 600 mm (1,200 mm in 35mm), f/8, 1/250 s, ISO 2,500, Date Taken 2017-04-23 19:20:36.
They changed Smugmug's UI quite a bit. :facesmack:
I have to get used to that. Oh well.
:grin: It's still buggy though. :thumbdown:
k-hawinkler
Well-known member
Sony Semiconductor reveals 21MP stacked CMOS Four Thirds sensor capable of 120 fps full-width readout
The IMX472 appears to be the first stacked CMOS sensor for Four Thirds-sized cameras and promises up to 120 fps shooting of 12-bit stills.
www.dpreview.com
Interesting if used in an Olympus camera (or whatever the new name is).
Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
Seems like an obvious sensor for an E-M1X II. G9 II? It won't be able to output the 5.7K that Panasonic has claimed for the GH6, but maybe they have ordered a larger, multi aspect ratio version of the same sensor?Sony Semiconductor reveals 21MP stacked CMOS Four Thirds sensor capable of 120 fps full-width readout
The IMX472 appears to be the first stacked CMOS sensor for Four Thirds-sized cameras and promises up to 120 fps shooting of 12-bit stills.
Interesting if used in an Olympus camera (or whatever the new name is).
k-hawinkler
Well-known member
Shot Today.
Olympus E-M1MarkIII + M.300mm F4.0.
Olympus E-M1MarkIII + M.300mm F4.0.
k-hawinkler
Well-known member
Olympus E-M1MarkIII + M.300mm F4.0.
ptomsu
Workshop Member
As good as the 4/300 Pro is, I really never liked the fact that it is only a prime. Especially for wildlife the flexibility one gets with a zoom is just so much better. I once left Fuji and the great 100-400 for that 4/300 Olympus with my Oly cameras. And I was not happy - has nothing to do with IQ etc, bit has all to do with flexibility from a great zoom you get while shooting.
Olympus E-M1MarkIII + M.300mm F4.0.
Anyway there would be a great wildlife zoom available from Olympus - the 150-400 - but that lens is at a cost many of us do not want to pay for such a lens that is limited to the m43 system and only plays its full benefits in combination with an Olympus Pro body.
Despite that - this 4/300 and the EM1.3 are obviously still a great wildlife combo
Jorgen Udvang
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The Nikon equivalent lens, the 180-400mm f/4 will with the built-in TC activated will on a Z7 II in crop mode (19.5MP) give a reach of 840mm (f/5.6 on what is now an APS-C sensor), more or less as much as the Zuiko lens without the TC activated. Still, the Zuiko can be extended to 1,000mm eqv. when needed. The Nikkor is near twice as expensive and twice as heavy as the Zuiko. Since I can buy two Olympus E-M1 III bodies for the price of one Nikon Z7 II, I don't really see the disadvantage with the lens only being able to mount on an Olympus body. They are cheap, reliable, and render excellent image quality.
This is of course all a bit irrelevant. The Nikkor is out of stock (and out of production?) and there's a waiting list for the Zuiko. But I'm sure Nikon will come up with an even more expensive Z-mount alternative within a year or two