Question on using Hasselblad V lens on Phase One DF body

[guphotography]

Hi folks,

I'm contemplating adding an option to use IQ back for portrait / headshot work, narrowed down the list to V mount lenses on DF bodies.

It is important that I can sync flash faster than 1/125, for full control of ambient light. Would above combo allow me to do so? I do have Contax 645 120mm makro but I don't think it would work due to lack of leaf shutter.

I don't need auto focus, likely to only use makro planar 120 with this set up, is there any significant benefit of cfe or cfi over cf version?

I would prefer to pick up a IQ160 or even Leaf Credo CCD back for this set up, or resort to 100mp CMOS back when needed.

Many thanks.

 

[anyone]

I'd be surprised if you could use the leaf shutter of the Hasselblad lenses. In fact the only solution I know to do so (besides a native 500 series body of course) is with the Cambo-adapter. Maybe something like this exists also for your new RM3Di? I like mine on the Cambo, since I can shift quite a bit with the old lenses. They are not as sharp as their Digitar counterparts, but I like them nonetheless.

 

[guphotography]

Thank you Thomas, definitely an option worth considering, it might just open up some interesting opportunities!

 

[Photon42]

For me that sounds like a very complicated setup for portraits. If you want to go medium format / compact budget, why not try a used Leica S camera. You can adapt Contax 645 (AF), HC lenses (AF and leaf shutter!), V lenses, Pentax lenses, Mamiya 645 lenses. Yes - the 006 is CCD and only 37 MP. Maybe that rules it out for you. On the other hand, it is a very capable portrait camera, especially with the S120, the Pentax 105 or the FE110 from Hasselblad.

 

[guphotography]

Thanks for your input.

Maybe I should have mentioned that the whole idea was built around my existing IQ back, subsequently if I do acquire a CCD back in the future, I'd like to use it with tech cam as well as the portrait set up, this would rule out an entirely new system such as the leica s, unfortunately.

 

[alistairsimmons]

Schneider Kreuznach Silver Ring LS lenses are available pre-owned at pretty low prices these days. Why go the Hasselblad route rather than this?

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[guphotography]

Well, I'm leaning away from the "sharp" look of modern lenses when it comes to portraits, especially when paired with high resolving sensor. Prefer an older lens with more pleasant rendering and less clinical sharpness.

Many of my DP mates have been rehousing older lenses, because the modern lenses make footages look like video, rather than "film", characteristics outweighs sharpness.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[Steve Hendrix]

Well, I'm leaning away from the "sharp" look of modern lenses when it comes to portraits, especially when paired with high resolving sensor. Prefer an older lens with more pleasant rendering and less clinical sharpness.

Many of my DP mates have been rehousing older lenses, because the modern lenses make footages look like video, rather than "film", characteristics outweighs sharpness.

Hope that makes sense.

It's going to sync at the body shutter max speed of 1/125.

Have you considered mounting to a Mamiya RZ? That will at least get you to 1/400th, and those lenses certainly qualify for what you're after optically.

Steve Hendrix/CI

 

[guphotography]

I haven't Steve!

isn't adapter mega rare and expensive? It would be amazing for that actually since I still have rz body and lenses somewhere.

 

[Steve Hendrix]

Yes, the RZ adapter would be the semi-unicorn.


Steve Hendrix/CI

 

[buildbot]

Yes, the RZ adapter would be the semi-unicorn.


Steve Hendrix/CI

There is an eBay seller who makes one, not sure of the quality: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284873179681?hash=item4253c3c221:g:KksAAOSwu2Rip8Og
There is also a Silvestri adapter: https://www.silvestricamerashop.it/...76-hasselblad-v-attachment-for-mamiya-rz.html
^It says V but it is a Mamiya adapter
Though they don't have the contacts for syncing with the RZ67 IID, you would need a cable.

 

[guphotography]

There is an eBay seller who makes one, not sure of the quality: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284873179681?hash=item4253c3c221:g:KksAAOSwu2Rip8Og
There is also a Silvestri adapter: https://www.silvestricamerashop.it/...76-hasselblad-v-attachment-for-mamiya-rz.html
^It says V but it is a Mamiya adapter
Though they don't have the contacts for syncing with the RZ67 IID, you would need a cable.

Many thanks, will get in touch with sellers and hopefully existing users for feedback.

 

[alistairsimmons]

- It is important that I can sync flash faster than 1/125, for full control of ambient light.
- Prefer an older lens with more pleasant rendering and less clinical sharpness.

Seems to me it's a toss up between which of these is most important.

 

[Tristanrd92]

Hello,
I use the exact setup you’re mentioning in your first post.
Phase one Df, IQ160 back and hasselblad V lenses (50 and 100mm)
First you need the adapter AF HB, which doesn’t allow you to use the leaf shutter.

For portrait work, with 80mm/100mm/+ it is pretty difficult to be perfectly accurate with the focus, especially on a 60mpx back.
In sensor+ mode(15mpx on IQ160) it is easier thanks to the 12 micron pixels.

You have two solutions if you want the Zeiss look and LS with digital back:
-to be able to use LS with hasselblad Zeiss lenses you have to use a classic 500 body with a fat pixel V mount digital back like a p25+ to nail focus every time
-adapt a digital back on a Contax 645, Contax Zeiss lenses are AF so no problem with any modern digital back for the focus

 

[Photon42]

How do you get a leaf shutter with a C645?