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Thanks Terry - we need to keep these Guys under control - this one is needed over in the bokeh thread - we don't have too many "OOFs through movement". . . .
Guy-you long exposure needs to be crossposted on the Photographing your bokeh thread
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HI WoodyJust as an attempt at clarification.
The DPReview of the GF1 made clear that if using the camera's jpeg processing engine you will get much much better results with the EP1.
On the other hand, if processing a Jpeg from raw then the GF1 is a far superior engine.
Just as an attempt at clarification.
The DPReview of the GF1 made clear that if using the camera's jpeg processing engine you will get much much better results with the EP1.
On the other hand, if processing a Jpeg from raw then the GF1 is a far superior engine. They could not have been clearer about this. I think this distinction is really important since most of us take raw images and process later using our favorite converters. Personally I never shoot in Jpeg since once there you have no options in terms of going back to basic images then processing again if necessary.
If you agree with that logic, then it makes sense to use the camera/engine that does the best job of capturing raw images. Once you have that basic image you can process an infinite number of variants depending on what you need/want to accomplish. I subscribe to that notion.......big time!
Both are capable cameras, to be sure. I am a Panny fan when it comes to Micro 2/3 so that's all there is to that. My use for the GF1 is as a take with you camera so you never are in a position to lose a potentially useful and salable file. F8 and be there but if your camera is at home there is no F8 so you are basically hosed. The GF1 with the tiny 20 1.7 meets my criteria for a camera you can have with you at all times. Shoot raw and be there. JMHO!
Woody
By the way, last time I looked Jack, at about 6'6" and 260 or so is what is known as the moderator/administrator enforcer. Challenge this at your own peril
Most reviewers feel that this is the case, but I prefer the Panasonic in-camera B&W to Oly in-cam B&W, and I'm more likely to shoot in-cam B&W than in-cam color.As you said, shooting jpegs, the Oly wins.
Thanks for the clarification. Most do talk about the color not the B&W and I do very much like the B&W I get out of the G series. That being said, I haven't done any deep comparisons between the B&W rendering between the two brands.Most reviewers feel that this is the case, but I prefer the Panasonic in-camera B&W to Oly in-cam B&W, and I'm more likely to shoot in-cam B&W than in-cam color.
It's the Swedish tiles.(...)
I find some aspects of this building strangely erotic.
Guy, when you talk about selling the kit lens, are you talking about the 20 or the zoom.?I think the next lens for me is the 7-14 and the new 45mm and sell the kit lens. Most of my shots are 14mm, 20mm and 45mm from what I have been shooting with it. I actually pressed this into service yesterday on a job along with my MF images.
Thanks Terry,Bob,
I really like this shot. I've been in too many hotels rooms and up and awake in the pre-dawn hours that I can relate to this shot. I also didn't see your reflection making it all the better.
terry